Cliff Diving

38 Democrats, 27 Republicans, 2 Socialists and a Libertarian were in total agreement… All part of Health Insurance Issues With Dave

December 19, 2024 

They were much too angry and type A to stand in line.  But they waited for their turn and one by one marched to the podium, faced the few assembled Congressmen not from their states, and held nothing back.  They were all there, every single member of the delegations from California, Arizona, and Nevada.  38 Democrats, 27 Republicans, 2 Socialists and a Libertarian were in total agreement.  The federal government needed to act, NOW.  And it wasn’t going to happen.  The Speaker of the House, James L. (Jimmy Lee) Russell (R-La), had already left.  There was not going to be a vote tonight.  And if the citizens of California, Arizona, and Nevada were dying from a flu epidemic and needed more medical attention than was currently available, well it was, in part, their fault for not being smart enough to live in Louisiana.   

Hell, everyone should live in Louisiana, except of course, that damn Socialist. 

The idea that the House of Representatives would adjourn without completing the people’s business would seem absurd to anyone who wasn’t paying attention to the drama of the last few days.  But last night I watched the delegations from New York and New Jersey, Democrats and Republicans alike, shake in fury at the idea that Speaker John Boehner (R-Oh) would adjourn prior to allowing the vote for emergency relief for the victims of Hurricane Sandy. 

As we march towards the nationalization of our health care delivery system, I again wonder if the people in Washington are up to the task.  I know, I’ve met many of the suits at the major insurance companies.  They don’t instill unqualified confidence, but the insurers seldom suffer from the self-inflicted wounds that our current leaders have mastered. 

Our Republican leaders have attempted to starve the government.  They have tried, with a great deal of success, to lower taxes without reducing expenses.  Now that the election is over, we are hearing about entitlement cuts.  We are learning that the Republicans seem to believe that Medicare, Social Security, and Medicaid are the sources of our financial problems.  Defense, government subsidies to favored industries, and revenues should be off the table.  What happens when our health care is just one more line item on the budget and the choice is adequate funding or the happiness of a few large campaign donors? 

I don’t like our odds. 

And my fellow Democrats aren’t any better.  There is no such thing as free.  And though a modest increase in the taxes some of us pay may not hurt (too much), the truth is that you can’t tax your way out of this mess.  That and we seem to fixate on the low hanging fruit.  Most people don’t mind increasing the taxes on other people.  If we really need the money so badly, why not ask everyone to chip in?  Pick a number.  $5 a week from the paychecks of everyone making under that $250,000 threshold?  Something.  Anything.  Shared pain seems to mean someone is in pain and the rest of us will watch and pretend to feel bad. 

It is difficult to not feel frustration after watching the New Year’s Eve mess.  I was transfixed.  I couldn’t help myself.  I kept waiting for our country’s leadership to lead.  In the end it fell upon Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky) and Vice President Biden to craft a deal that could pass.  I was not surprised to see Joe Biden ride in (limo not horseback) to save the day.  McConnell’s participation was a pleasant surprise. 

But nothing is really solved.  The US government is run by people unwilling and unable to craft a realistic budget, a doable system of taxation and tax collection, and a logical strategic plan.  This is nothing new.  What is new is that we are less than ten months from the implementation of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.  The federal government will be running the exchanges in states like Ohio where the governor thought that a President Romney would make all of this moot.  How politicized, underfunded, and uncertain will our health care funding become? 

I think we will all be cliff diving.

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James Thomas January 04, 2013 at 03:22 PM
Mr. Cunix, we'll be cliff diving--- the doctors will be retiring, en masse.
James Murphy January 05, 2013 at 06:09 PM
changing to a fair tax system where everyone is only taxed when they purchase something would solve all our money problems, the poor can be given a fixed amount to spend including the 25-30% tax addition that would apply to anything bought,the extra income that this would bring in would be staggering, new income from those who work under the table also drug dealers and illegal immigrants would now have to pay taxes on what they buy since right now they pay nothing people who actually work can keep their whole paycheck
pam ghaster January 06, 2013 at 02:12 PM
James I do not agree. Right now we are recuriting doctors to the US. Medical school is to expensive. The Affordable Care Act which I have researched over the past year is actually very positive to hospitals and doctors. My company teaches companys how to understand the ACT. In the long run it will benefit us all. -pam ghaster
bob lang January 06, 2013 at 05:50 PM
I love your idea of a fair tax. Lower income folks who spend a larger percentage of their income would have a larger tax burden, while upper income folks who have more expendable income would pay a lower percentage. You might be interested to know that many "illegal immigrants" actually pay taxes rather than take a chance the government would check up on their documents. Under your plan Mitt Romney, who was only taxed at a 15% rate on 20 million dollars would probably have a smaller tax burden unless he spent the entire 20 million. Great plan!!
tom m January 07, 2013 at 01:13 AM
bob lang let me correct your biggest mistake you made " Mitt Romney, who was only taxed at a 15% rate on 20 million dollars " that 15% tax rate was on the interest only ..... which was the 2nd time that money was taxed (no better break than you or I on INTEREST INCOME) ....second "Lower income folks who spend a larger percentage of their income would have a larger tax burden, while upper income folks who have more expendable income would pay a lower percentage" also incorrect a ford focus and a lear jet would have the same tax rate
Bob January 07, 2013 at 01:51 AM
Obama lied about middle class taxes not going up for couples earning less than $450,000. Social Security tax just increased on EVERYONE. 2% less take home pay for EVERYONE. Hurts the low income folks the worst. What a bunch of sheep to re-elect this guy. Amazing.
bob lang January 07, 2013 at 03:12 AM
Tom, I've heard the old income taxed twice many times before and it still isn't right. The tax was on $20 million in capital gains not straight interest and because of the sweet deal old Mitt had at Bain all his income was considered capital gains. Let me explain another way. If you had 20 million dollars and made 2 million dollars of interest, you would be taxed on the interest. you would not be taxed on the original 20 million, so where is you double taxation? And you are also wrong about your second point. Your comparison of the ford focus and lear jet is ludicrous. If the upper class individual is buying the jet for himself, that's a luxury which he could do without where the ford focus is probably necessary for the lower income person to get to work. If the upper class individual needs the lear jet for work, his company our he is paying for it at a lower tax rate as a business expense.
bob lang January 07, 2013 at 03:20 AM
This is all you got to complain about- the fact that the 2 year tax holiday is over and we're back to paying the same rate we were paying in 2011. Give me a break.
tom m January 07, 2013 at 04:27 AM
again incorrect there is no business expenses in a fair tax system or deductions or income tax ................read up before spewing BS .....here ill give you a simple link since that might be all you can understand ..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FairTax
Garry Kanter January 07, 2013 at 05:15 AM
If he is considered a hedge fund manager, Romney's regular wages may have been taxed at 15%. Based on a canard know as "carried" interest, Romney's earnings may have been considered "investments" that were at risk, thanks to the lobbyists. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_of_private_equity_and_hedge_funds
Garry Kanter January 07, 2013 at 05:18 AM
Why is a tax on consumption called "fair"? Most people spend over 100% of what they make. The 1%-ers are savers, so they spend less than 100% of what they make. In addition, I suppose that would be a flat rate across the board? Count me out!
Jean Williams January 07, 2013 at 06:28 AM
Garry why should society bail those people who keep spending more than they make ??? it kinda reminds me of the story of the ant and the grasshopper.
Garry Kanter January 07, 2013 at 07:31 AM
That's an unrelated, and skewed question. How about we start with you answering *my* questions, first?
Garry Kanter January 07, 2013 at 09:47 AM
pam ghaster January 07, 2013 at 04:34 PM
This is all you have to complain about. You had better be thankful Obama is back in office. I am not I understand your double taxation. I make over the number talked about and I am very pleased with our President.
Nassman January 08, 2013 at 05:06 PM
To David Branch - Nice try!
Jack Kelly January 08, 2013 at 09:34 PM
"changing to a fair tax system where everyone is only taxed when they purchase something would solve all our money problems, " BWHAHAHA.
Kim L January 09, 2013 at 02:21 AM
that is an interesting link, all those people working under the table would have to contribute when they buy anything, criminals and illegals would also have no choice to pay the taxes they now avoid. I would be willing to bet 75% of the workers who built my house were working under the table
James Thomas January 09, 2013 at 02:57 PM
Worse than Jack Kelly. OK Patch You're Up. How is this Gay Baiting Post acceptable? David Branch 1:58 am on Monday, January 7, 2013 Mr Thomas - where do you get your information from? I am a physician an will not be retiring. Why would I? What about the new health care act do you feel will make doctors want to retire. In reading some of your past posts I understand you are a librarian. What in God's name do you know about medicine? For that matter, what would you know about manhood? Has anyone ever seen a male librarian. All little boys have dreams of what they want to be when they grow up. Sounds like you had gender confusion instead. Do us all a favor and stick to what you know. FICTION!
Susan Ruiz Patton January 09, 2013 at 09:58 PM
You're absolutely right James Thomas. This is not acceptable. Note, however, that you can flag inappropriate comments any time. That calls the string to the editor's attention. Thanks for your help.
Susan Ruiz Patton January 09, 2013 at 10:01 PM
Another user was suspended for violating our terms of use. Please consult it and behave accordingly.
James Thomas January 09, 2013 at 10:12 PM
Ms. Patton, thank you for your response. I do use the "flag" for inappropriate comments but sometimes more light must be shed on particularly offensive ones. It's amazing what shining a light can do.


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